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be that at the state department, the cia. >> there are two issues here. one is the physical security of the consulate itself. based on all of the intelligence that we knew, all of that information, said clearly there was a high degree of threat. i believe that there was a catastrophic failure in recognizing that threat posture clearly on that date. that's a separate issue than the intelligence issue. we had clearly the intelligence was right. clearly, others had made decisions based on that threat, including other nations, had pulled out of benghazi. we knew all of that was going on through the investigation. but the state department for whatever reason didn't make the adjustments. i argue, and i think the senator would argue, would have been prudent to protect the lives. that's one issue. but the second issue is the narrative created following it did not match the intelligence. and did the policy decisions that happened afterward cause problems for the united states? i argue it has, and we have agreed together that we'll get to the bottom of how that hap
be that at the state department, the cia. >> there are two issues here. one is the physical security of the consulate itself. based on all of the intelligence that we knew, all of that information, said clearly there was a high degree of threat. i believe that there was a catastrophic failure in recognizing that threat posture clearly on that date. that's a separate issue than the intelligence issue. we had clearly the intelligence was right. clearly, others had made decisions based on...
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if you look at leon panetta, when he was running the cia, when he went to the cia people asked what kind of background did he have in the intelligence community? it wasn't particularly deep. he was in congress who had been a white house chief of staff, kind of an organization man. you had other cia directors that come up the ranks and they're real spy masters. petraeus came from the military. there has been a recent trend of senior intelligence officials nts government having military background. so that actually -- petraeus was a part of that wave of people who bring -- because we are having this merger in military and intelligence now, we identify threats and trouble spots and frequently we wind up sending special forces or drones our using targeted military actions to address threats. you could see someone else come from the military. again, to return to this point briefly that i made earlier, the cia is increasingly being identified by its reliance on drones and drone strikes and that kind of military side of things. petraeus was steering it very much in that direction, so i guess if
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inquiry into bengahzi this week wants to know what petraeus learned on a secret trip to debrief the cia station chief there shortly before he resigned. >> we have asked to see the trip report. one person said he has read it, then we try to get it and they tell us it hasn't been done. that's unacceptable. we're entitled to this trip report. if we have to go to the floor of the senate on a subpoena, we will do that. >> reporter: feinstein and michael rogers also want to know why the president didn't learn about the fbi investigation until last thursday and why they didn't learn until a day later, the day petraeus resigned. but eric canter learned tof it two weeks earlier. >>> washington lawmakers will be returning to the capitol this morning and will be buzzing about the petraeus and allen investigations. but they're also going to be faced with a much larger problem. we're talking about the trillion dollar fiscal cliff, which if not dealt with before the end of the year will impact everyone in america. so today president obama will be meeting with key labor and progressive leaders at the
inquiry into bengahzi this week wants to know what petraeus learned on a secret trip to debrief the cia station chief there shortly before he resigned. >> we have asked to see the trip report. one person said he has read it, then we try to get it and they tell us it hasn't been done. that's unacceptable. we're entitled to this trip report. if we have to go to the floor of the senate on a subpoena, we will do that. >> reporter: feinstein and michael rogers also want to know why the...
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arriving through a secret entrance this morning, the former cia director made his way to the hill for closed meetings with the house and the senate intelligence committees to testify about that september 11th attack, an event he said and always believed was an act of terrorism. democratic congressman adam schiff from california sits on the intelligence committee and was in the hearing room this morning. congressman, this is so sensitive. is it true or not true that the united nations ambassador susan rice was given the correct known information about what happened in benghazi when she went on those five television shows on sunday a few days after the attack? was she given the accurate, up-to-date information on what happened, that it was a terrorist attack? >> she was given the best assessment the intelligence committee had at the time. i asked general petraeus, were the talking points we were given their best intelligence assessment at the time and they were given that late in the day on saturday, late in the afternoon, and he said, yes. these are -- this was the best assessment they
arriving through a secret entrance this morning, the former cia director made his way to the hill for closed meetings with the house and the senate intelligence committees to testify about that september 11th attack, an event he said and always believed was an act of terrorism. democratic congressman adam schiff from california sits on the intelligence committee and was in the hearing room this morning. congressman, this is so sensitive. is it true or not true that the united nations ambassador...
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the cia is now investigating whether he did anything wrong professionally. the fbi concluded it was a personal matter. >> we made the determination as we were going through the matter that there was not a threat to national security. >> reporter: petraeus testifies today on the deadly attack that killed four americans in benghazi. thursday lawmakers saw realtime video of that attack and got in a heated shouting match over whether united nations ambassador susan rice intentionally misled the public when she said it was spontaneous. >> this administration include the president himself has intentionally misinformed and lied to the american people in the aftermath of this tragedy. >> if you want to know who is responsible in this town, buy yourself a mirror. >> reporter: petraeus could shed some light on that today. today's hearing is closed. the committees hope to have open public hearings at a later dade. lynn? >> tracie, thanks so much. now a check of the weather with bill karins. he's tracking a nice weekend for you all. >> like my vacation week without taki
the cia is now investigating whether he did anything wrong professionally. the fbi concluded it was a personal matter. >> we made the determination as we were going through the matter that there was not a threat to national security. >> reporter: petraeus testifies today on the deadly attack that killed four americans in benghazi. thursday lawmakers saw realtime video of that attack and got in a heated shouting match over whether united nations ambassador susan rice intentionally...
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any e-mail was not his cia e-mail. it was not like the former director who got busted taking home classified information on his home laptop. so this was not a national security matter. and it was not a criminal matter. so why was this brought up to the director of national intelligence by the fbi. we do not know. what we do know is once james clapper, head of the national intelligence, found out about the affair on election day, he urged david petraeus to resign. the following day, wednesday, mr. clapper reportedly notified staff at the white house and the following day, thursday, general petraeus sat down with president obama directly. the president did not accept his resignation initially that day. he didn't accept it until the following day, until friday. that's when it all became public. here's another question, though. why did the fbi investigation start here in the first place? what we're told about why it started is a woman who was not having an affair, she received e-mails that she perceived as threatening and
any e-mail was not his cia e-mail. it was not like the former director who got busted taking home classified information on his home laptop. so this was not a national security matter. and it was not a criminal matter. so why was this brought up to the director of national intelligence by the fbi. we do not know. what we do know is once james clapper, head of the national intelligence, found out about the affair on election day, he urged david petraeus to resign. the following day, wednesday,...
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why didn't he as cia director go to the president, the public ought to know what happened. why didn't he do that? >> the intelligence community put forward the assessments that gave us a clear assessment and debunked the idea there was a protest. you can accuse them of being too slow to do that, and we have asked them exactly these questions why it took so long to get to the truth and get a more accurate picture. they need to put this forward to us in a way that doesn't divulge classified information. but i don't think there's any evidence, i certainly haven't seen any evidence, that general petraeus or any of the other intelligence community were trying to mislead anyone. they are professional. they were trying to do their job, and we can fault them for getting the initial assessment wrong, but i don't think we can ascribe any kind of malice or intent to deceive. >> when your pants are on fire, someone should tell you your pants are on fire. you shouldn't have to ask are my pants on fire? that's my view. i'm going to try to get more information. congressman adam schiff fro
why didn't he as cia director go to the president, the public ought to know what happened. why didn't he do that? >> the intelligence community put forward the assessments that gave us a clear assessment and debunked the idea there was a protest. you can accuse them of being too slow to do that, and we have asked them exactly these questions why it took so long to get to the truth and get a more accurate picture. they need to put this forward to us in a way that doesn't divulge classified...
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agents or 100 cia agents. the country was unsecure, the country was in the middle of a violent revolution. he had been in the area a long time. new exactly what a really bad situation looked like, could recognize it, and really had no business being there. so there was some complicity at the state department about that. there was no reason for him to be there. you couldn't generate the kinds of forces that you woot require to defend the place in short order given a rotten situation that was taking place. there's a lot of blame going around. you could argue that the cia should have known this was a really rotten situation and could have sent a lot more agents there. if i are were the director of the cia i would argue i have no business sending more agents down there at a time when what you needed was for the ambassador to get the heck out of there. >> thank you all. stay with us. much more ahead. >>> final for the your business entrepreneurs of the week. kathleen bailey and susan kad are encouraging customers t
agents or 100 cia agents. the country was unsecure, the country was in the middle of a violent revolution. he had been in the area a long time. new exactly what a really bad situation looked like, could recognize it, and really had no business being there. so there was some complicity at the state department about that. there was no reason for him to be there. you couldn't generate the kinds of forces that you woot require to defend the place in short order given a rotten situation that was...
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it started once he got to the cia. so after he left active duty and ended four months ago. they also insist that jill kelley, who s of course, the woman who says she was getting harassing e-mails from paula broadwell, his biographer and the alleged person with whom he was having the extramarital relationship, that jill kelley is just a friend. they say she's a family friend. that the families have known each other for a long time. jill kelley lives down in florida. those are the details that are starting to come out. he's starting to reach out to friends and former aides and essentially to apologize and express remorse. >> sure. it's a profoundly tragic and moving story all at once. the president will meet with several stakeholders this week, including congressional leaders on economic path forward. how confident is the president that he's got enough political capital to finally get republicans to compromise and avoid the so-called fiscal cliff before the end of the year or will it be deja vu all over again? >> reporter: we are going to have to wait and see. that's basicall
it started once he got to the cia. so after he left active duty and ended four months ago. they also insist that jill kelley, who s of course, the woman who says she was getting harassing e-mails from paula broadwell, his biographer and the alleged person with whom he was having the extramarital relationship, that jill kelley is just a friend. they say she's a family friend. that the families have known each other for a long time. jill kelley lives down in florida. those are the details that...
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. >>> the surprising resignation of cia general david petraeus. the report is that indicative of an extramarital affair, paula broadwell has not responded to our repeated request for comment. kristen welcker is joining me now. what can you tell us about this breaking story? >> good afternoon, craig. the fbi has opened up an investigation into paula broadwell to see if she had improper access to general petraeus' e-mails or computer files. david petraeus is not under investigation himself and they do not expect their inquiry will result in criminal charges. we have, of course, reached out to paula broadwell. we have not heard back from her. she wrote a biography called "all in." some people describe it as glowing. it's certainly coming under a lot of scrutiny right now. just to give you a lick tick tock of how this unfolded. the white house learned about this on wednesday. general petraeus requested to meet with president obama on thursday. he explained the situation to the president, offered the resignation and president obama said give me 24 hour
. >>> the surprising resignation of cia general david petraeus. the report is that indicative of an extramarital affair, paula broadwell has not responded to our repeated request for comment. kristen welcker is joining me now. what can you tell us about this breaking story? >> good afternoon, craig. the fbi has opened up an investigation into paula broadwell to see if she had improper access to general petraeus' e-mails or computer files. david petraeus is not under investigation...
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i know the cia is going to miss him. all of us on the hill are going to tremendously miss him. >> do you have any concerns that national security was ever at risk? >> you know, i just don't know enough about the details, really, at this moment to respond. i've read everything that's come out thus far and i'm sure more will come out as the week goes on. but, i just don't know enough, really, to weigh in. >> no. >> i can just say that, you know, again, he's a figure here that people respected. i know he contributed tremendously through his lifetime to our national security, and i hate to see him leave. >> well, i appreciate your candor, because it's a very sensitive situation. how about this, though, sir, from a political perspective, there are those who suggest there is more here that meets the eye. do you buy any of that talk? >> i just don't know. i mean, this is a place that's always looking for conspiracy theory. i think you know i've led the charge on benghazi. i've been to libya since it occurred. and tried to under
i know the cia is going to miss him. all of us on the hill are going to tremendously miss him. >> do you have any concerns that national security was ever at risk? >> you know, i just don't know enough about the details, really, at this moment to respond. i've read everything that's come out thus far and i'm sure more will come out as the week goes on. but, i just don't know enough, really, to weigh in. >> no. >> i can just say that, you know, again, he's a figure here...
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andrea said he's expected to testify before the cia. this investigation with benghazi, do you see any parallels, anything that might also have factored in with na resignation? >> well, of course, there's a link. i think at some juncture if he told the truth he would say he didn't have as much to do when on the ground, what went on on the ground as people think. a large number, the majority maybe all of the decision making was taken in the white house in the state department. he had nothing to do with it. that's a painful thing for him to say in testimony before the congress. >> all right. colonel jack jacobs, thank you very much for joining us with this breaking news. a lot of developments. the president coming out and addressing the public for the first time since his re-election, discussing an invitation made to congressional leaders to meet at the white house to start in some kind of compromise to deal with the fiscal
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well, brand new information on cia's role in the benghazi terror attacks. details next. >>> plus, oprah's favorite things, and you might even be able to afford a few of them. you're watching "first look" on msnbc. if you think running a restaurant is hard, try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. flavor, meet food. it's time for swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth in easy to use packets. mix it into skillet dishes, for an instant dose of... hell-o! [ female announcer ] get recipes at flavorboost.com. ♪ [ female announcer ] pop in a whole new kind of clean. with tide pods. a powerful three-in-one detergent that cleans. brightens. and fights stains just one removes more stains than the 6 next leading pacs combined pop in. stand out. a short word that's a tall order. up your game. up the ante. and if yo
well, brand new information on cia's role in the benghazi terror attacks. details next. >>> plus, oprah's favorite things, and you might even be able to afford a few of them. you're watching "first look" on msnbc. if you think running a restaurant is hard, try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever...
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this is the first time we've seen, as i say, the former cia director. joining me now is michael leiter, nbc news terrorism expert and former director of the national counterterrorism center at the cia. you've had long experience working there and you know what this agency is going through right now. it's extraordinary. they announced yesterday inspector general's investigation into whether david petraeus used his security detail, his planes, the facilities of office, resources of the agency, to further, to advance this relationship which we now he has acknowledged was paula broadwell. >> they did announce that. i think they made clear in that announcement this was completely precautionary. they were not suggesting he had done anything wrong. they thought this was right in light of all the news and attention that's been cast on the cia and as you say, this makes it a very difficult time for the cia during incredible international upheaval. >> we'll talk about in a moment. i want to ask you about the conflicts consensus on what benghazi was. petraeus, by
this is the first time we've seen, as i say, the former cia director. joining me now is michael leiter, nbc news terrorism expert and former director of the national counterterrorism center at the cia. you've had long experience working there and you know what this agency is going through right now. it's extraordinary. they announced yesterday inspector general's investigation into whether david petraeus used his security detail, his planes, the facilities of office, resources of the agency, to...
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he didn't want on record that cia intelligence was bad and that was the reason. so that "wall street journal" report we saw yesterday talking about petraeus in his final days at the cia really wanting to come out and talk publicly. we have a greater sense of why that was. of all the agencies and departments that have their hands in the libya affair, cia, dod, state, white house, fbi, i think it's clear that the cia's jurisdiction in a lot of what happened was probably minimal. that makes petraeus's downfall all the more sad, because i think of everyone the cia and david petraeus probably had the cleanest hands in all of this. we have to see. we obviously have plenty more questions going forward. >> to your point, s.e., it shows his resignation was over the extra-marital affair. >> yeah. >> i want to take a step back here on this whole issue. i mean, i think -- let me start by saying that i think the questions about the security at the consulate in benghazi are legitimate questions that deserve investigation. the thing that republicans have really glomed onto is w
he didn't want on record that cia intelligence was bad and that was the reason. so that "wall street journal" report we saw yesterday talking about petraeus in his final days at the cia really wanting to come out and talk publicly. we have a greater sense of why that was. of all the agencies and departments that have their hands in the libya affair, cia, dod, state, white house, fbi, i think it's clear that the cia's jurisdiction in a lot of what happened was probably minimal. that...
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the cia is extremely important. and we need to move on and get on with protecting this nation and finding out the things we need to know. >> congressman larson, general petraeus was expected to testify next week in front of the senate intelligence committee behind closed doors. what does this mean? he's not going to testify unless he's subpoenaed. do you think he needs to step forward? or is he a citizen going on about his way? >> i think that he's a citizen going on his way. i think the point that john makes that certainly the cia is very capable and very competent and will provide the hearing and the information that is needed. i think in part people would probably like to see general petraeus come forward and testify behind closed doors because of what he knows. i'm sure his staff is equipped and prepared with regard to that. >> okay. great to have you both with us here on "the ed show." appreciate your time. remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts with us. we want t
the cia is extremely important. and we need to move on and get on with protecting this nation and finding out the things we need to know. >> congressman larson, general petraeus was expected to testify next week in front of the senate intelligence committee behind closed doors. what does this mean? he's not going to testify unless he's subpoenaed. do you think he needs to step forward? or is he a citizen going on about his way? >> i think that he's a citizen going on his way. i...
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there's an fbi and cia, infa infatuated with jill kelley >> let's get this straight. this guy works at the fbi, becomes infatuated. she gets shirtless photos of him allegedly. she goes to him and says i'm getting these weird e-mails. >> he takes this matter into a federal investigation you have to wonder. an fbi investigation if not for this one agent's involvement and especially him going to congress as a whistle blower saying it wasn't being investigated fairly. it's just very bizarre. >> once the fbi got involved, why didn't notify the white house and congress right away? the questions go on and on. >> don't send shirtless picture of yourself, unless they're vacation photos with your family. >> these e-mails with john allen, 20,000 and 30,000 e-mails. as a member of council of foreign relations, what does this do to the president? >> david petraeus was a very important part of all of these conversations. he would have been a crucial advisement, the civil war in syria, all of which are among the pressing foreign policy questions right now. he doesn't need him resign
there's an fbi and cia, infa infatuated with jill kelley >> let's get this straight. this guy works at the fbi, becomes infatuated. she gets shirtless photos of him allegedly. she goes to him and says i'm getting these weird e-mails. >> he takes this matter into a federal investigation you have to wonder. an fbi investigation if not for this one agent's involvement and especially him going to congress as a whistle blower saying it wasn't being investigated fairly. it's just very...
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david petraeus who was stejed to day before he resigned as cia director will now testify tomorrow revealing what he learned from his own independent investigation into the ben gaz i didn't remember -- benghazi attack. including john mccain and lundcy graham are calling for a watergate style investigation into the libya raid and the obama administration's response. the men also said they would try to block any attempt to nominate susan rice as the next secretary of state. describing rice as unqualified for the job after she originally characterized the benghazi terror attack as a protest gone wrong. president obama and his first post election news conference yesterday fired back in sharp terms. >> let me say specifically about susan rice, she has done xr exemplary work. she has represented the united states and our interests in the united nations with skill and professionalism and toughness and grace. if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador
david petraeus who was stejed to day before he resigned as cia director will now testify tomorrow revealing what he learned from his own independent investigation into the ben gaz i didn't remember -- benghazi attack. including john mccain and lundcy graham are calling for a watergate style investigation into the libya raid and the obama administration's response. the men also said they would try to block any attempt to nominate susan rice as the next secretary of state. describing rice as...
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. >> i think he took the right step, and i think it's important when you're director of the cia with all the challenges that face you, and have -- that personal integrity comes first and foremost. >> panetta a former cia director and the washington shuffle with panetta and clinton saying they want out of the second term. will john kerry now go to the pentagon? can susan rice be confirmed as secretary of state? and will nancy pelosi run for leader again? and what a welcome to washington the new class of congress arriving just in time for a classic d.c. scandal. and a different fall from grace, jon stewart, crowns himself the worst journalist in the world. >> anyone out there who thought i may have actual journalists instincts i give you a snippet of my interview. >> he loves serving, to be in the arena. i thought i was going to test him, he tested me, crushed his pelvis. he wanted to help me with the project. he can turn water into bottled water. >> the whole time i was staring at how defined her arms were. [ inaudible ]. i am the worst jurmist in the world. for god's sake the title o
. >> i think he took the right step, and i think it's important when you're director of the cia with all the challenges that face you, and have -- that personal integrity comes first and foremost. >> panetta a former cia director and the washington shuffle with panetta and clinton saying they want out of the second term. will john kerry now go to the pentagon? can susan rice be confirmed as secretary of state? and will nancy pelosi run for leader again? and what a welcome to...
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and the cia director. and you were never informed. >> not only that, but an fbi agent, apparently, took it upon himself to go to members of the house and tell them. and this was outside of the general line of information. and that's deeply disturbing. so i will take a look at that to too. >> let my circle back to that. the fbi agent who had initially been contacted by this woman who was a friend of the petraeus' family, jill kelly in tampa, this fbi agent who knew her, so she went to him as far as our reporting is concerned, she went to him and asked for help. she was getting e-mails that were of concern to her, harassing or threatening e-mails. this is jill kelly, whose husband and the petraeuses has been friends for more than five years -- >> well, this is all news to me. see, we were not told this. this is the first time i've learned of this. so that makes me think, how many other things are there, too? >> well, and from what our reporting, from my colleagues, pete williams, michael isikoff and i from o
and the cia director. and you were never informed. >> not only that, but an fbi agent, apparently, took it upon himself to go to members of the house and tell them. and this was outside of the general line of information. and that's deeply disturbing. so i will take a look at that to too. >> let my circle back to that. the fbi agent who had initially been contacted by this woman who was a friend of the petraeus' family, jill kelly in tampa, this fbi agent who knew her, so she went...
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all that while embattled former cia director david petraeus prepares to testify on capitol hill today. and breaking news from the middle east. as rockets are fired between the israelis and palestinians, this morning three israelis are killed. we'll have a live report coming up. first, good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. today, one scandal will give way to another in washington. david petraeus expected to testify in a closed door senate intelligence committee hearing. general petraeus is not expected to talk about his personal indiscretions that ended his cia career last week. instead, he'll be discussing details in the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya that resulted in the death of christopher stevens and three others. >>> also, the controversy over u.n. ambassador susan rice calling the assault spontaneous in september reached a boiling point. yesterday president obama and his first news conference since re-election exploded at republicans finger pointing over rice. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go a
all that while embattled former cia director david petraeus prepares to testify on capitol hill today. and breaking news from the middle east. as rockets are fired between the israelis and palestinians, this morning three israelis are killed. we'll have a live report coming up. first, good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. today, one scandal will give way to another in washington. david petraeus expected to testify in a closed door senate intelligence committee hearing. general petraeus is not...
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former cia director david petraeus is expected to testify. you see some of the tone and tenor of what will perhaps happen behind closed doors tomorrow. i'm tamron hall. you can watch "news nation" every day 2:00 p.m. eastern time. "the cycle" is up next. into their work, their name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the businesses that do so much for us. on november 24th, let's get out and shop small. challenge the need for such heavy measures with olay. regenerist micro-sculpting serum for firmer skin in 5 days. pretty heavy lifting for such a lightweight. [ female announcer ] olay regenerist. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> i'm krystal ball and you'r
former cia director david petraeus is expected to testify. you see some of the tone and tenor of what will perhaps happen behind closed doors tomorrow. i'm tamron hall. you can watch "news nation" every day 2:00 p.m. eastern time. "the cycle" is up next. into their work, their name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the...
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first, the resignation of the head of the cia, david peteus. and the possibility of a major financial crisis triggered if the country goes off the fiscal cliff. but right now, it seems like the petraeus scandal is overshadowing everything. the four star general resigned friday after admitting an affair with his biographer, paula broadwell. and investigators are asking why they didn't know about the investigation sooner. >> we received no advance notice. it was like a lightning bolt. the way i found out, i came back to washington thursday night. friday morning, the staff director told me there were a number of calls from press about this. i called david petraeus. >> and are you going to investigate why the fbi didn't notify you before? >> yes, absolutely. this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think we should have been told. there is a way to do it. >> and several top republicans are demanding petraeus come back to capitol hill this week to testify before congress over the attack on the american consulate in beng
first, the resignation of the head of the cia, david peteus. and the possibility of a major financial crisis triggered if the country goes off the fiscal cliff. but right now, it seems like the petraeus scandal is overshadowing everything. the four star general resigned friday after admitting an affair with his biographer, paula broadwell. and investigators are asking why they didn't know about the investigation sooner. >> we received no advance notice. it was like a lightning bolt. the...
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. >> once the fbi realized it was investigating the director of the cia or the cia director came one their focus and scope, i believe at that time they had an absolute obligation to tell the president. not to protect david petraeus but to protect the president. >> joining any now is nabokov news chief andrea mitchell. let's start off with there's two lines of investigations we know could take place this week aalone. first, the hot one of the last couple of hours, especially on your show, who knew what, when, is how people like to put it. we heard from senator fine steen on your show regarding your concerns. >> her concerns and the concerns also as i understand it of the house republican chair mike rogers, a former fib agent himself is they were not told. they didn't get a heads-up from the fbi or the dni or the head of national intelligence, general clapper. they didn't get a heads-up from the nsc or the white house. the first thing they know on friday, general petraeus is resigning, and the president's accepting his resignation without knowing there's months and months of an investi
. >> once the fbi realized it was investigating the director of the cia or the cia director came one their focus and scope, i believe at that time they had an absolute obligation to tell the president. not to protect david petraeus but to protect the president. >> joining any now is nabokov news chief andrea mitchell. let's start off with there's two lines of investigations we know could take place this week aalone. first, the hot one of the last couple of hours, especially on your...
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i found him to be very credible and forthcoming and was doing a good job at cia. it's a big loss for the agency and country that he has left but given the circumstances, unfortunately, i don't see there was any other alternative. >> how concerned are you that the fbi didn't seem to tell anyone about this investigation in what many in congress have suggested was not a timely manner? >> right, i'm very concerned about that and i spoke about that yesterday. with some of the staff who were getting briefed up on what was going to be coming in terms of the hearings and i asked the question, you know, when do they have an obligation to report and, of course, the answer is in a timely manner and as i understand it, the fbi did not inform either the chairman or the ranking member of either the house or senate intelligence committee or the full committees in a timely manner so that's something where it has to be addressed not only in this situation but other areas that involve sensitive intelligence issues or investigations. they need to be compliant with the law. >> congre
i found him to be very credible and forthcoming and was doing a good job at cia. it's a big loss for the agency and country that he has left but given the circumstances, unfortunately, i don't see there was any other alternative. >> how concerned are you that the fbi didn't seem to tell anyone about this investigation in what many in congress have suggested was not a timely manner? >> right, i'm very concerned about that and i spoke about that yesterday. with some of the staff who...
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the sudden resignation of the cia director david petraeus prompting serious questions on some national security and pushes congress into the who knew what and when mode. we'll have the latest developments later this morning. then there's the drama already on capitol hill over how to avoid plunging over the so-called fiscal cliff. are there enough republicans ready to raise revenue? but is that even enough to fix things without raising tax rates? plus, our autopsy of the campaign. now that florida has had enough time to decide who won there last tuesday, a deep dive into the oh, so coveted i-4 corridor. find out how the region that includes disneyworld turned into the democrats magic kingdom. good morning from washington. it's monday, november 12, 2012. this is "the daily rundown. "i'm chuck todd. this is the federal holiday in honoring veterans day, by the way. to my first reads of the morning. it's a shiny metal object, the david petraeus investigation. it's overshadowing what is the biggest story still in washington for the next two months. the president this week will kick off an ef
the sudden resignation of the cia director david petraeus prompting serious questions on some national security and pushes congress into the who knew what and when mode. we'll have the latest developments later this morning. then there's the drama already on capitol hill over how to avoid plunging over the so-called fiscal cliff. are there enough republicans ready to raise revenue? but is that even enough to fix things without raising tax rates? plus, our autopsy of the campaign. now that...
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is your beef with the cia and not susan rice? >> if that's the information that she got, the question is, who did she get it from? was it changed from the time from are either mike morell got it or somebody else? we're going to get to the bottom of this. i think that's a clearly important topic for the intelligence committee to look at. my belief is, our chairman, dianne feinstein, is as eager to get to the bottom of this as any republican on that committee. and we will. >> senator blunt, i want to get your reaction to what mitt romney was overheard on a donor conference call saying yesterday as to why he lost. do you agree with his assessment that he lost because of gifts? >> because of what? >> gifts, if you will, to certain constituency groups. >> i didn't -- i didn't hear the comment. and don't know the context of it. i think we lost because the president turned out more voters in the battleground states than anybody thought he was possibly going to be able to turn out. and the mechanics of politics matter as wells as the mes
is your beef with the cia and not susan rice? >> if that's the information that she got, the question is, who did she get it from? was it changed from the time from are either mike morell got it or somebody else? we're going to get to the bottom of this. i think that's a clearly important topic for the intelligence committee to look at. my belief is, our chairman, dianne feinstein, is as eager to get to the bottom of this as any republican on that committee. and we will. >> senator...
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the fallout continues over the resignation of former cia director general petraeus. petraeus stepped down citing an extramarital affair. an investigation began over the summer when jill kelley, a petraeus family friend, contacted the agency after receiving anonymous harassing e-mails. nbc news investigative correspondent michael isikoff describes what was in those e-mails. >> they accuse her of improper socializing. but they have references to the comings and goings to general petraeus. >> the fbi followed the computer trail that led them to paula broadwell. both broadwell and petraeus admitted they were having an affair after reviewing evidence prosecutors concluded no crimes were committed, but now some members of congress are saying that they or president obama should have been notified that such an investigation was even being conducted. it's curious timing for the conspiracy theorists at fox news. they are still beating the drum on benghazi. petraeus was supposed to testify over the matter. >> based on the evidence we had then, this was the obama administration'
the fallout continues over the resignation of former cia director general petraeus. petraeus stepped down citing an extramarital affair. an investigation began over the summer when jill kelley, a petraeus family friend, contacted the agency after receiving anonymous harassing e-mails. nbc news investigative correspondent michael isikoff describes what was in those e-mails. >> they accuse her of improper socializing. but they have references to the comings and goings to general petraeus....
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. >>> opening up behind closed doors, a week after resigning as head of the cia over an extramarital affair david petraeus heads to both sides of capitol hill this morning for hearings on what happened in the leadup and aftermath of the september attack that killed four americans in libya. >>> meanwhile, at the other end of pennsylvania avenue, president obama gets ready to sit down with congressional leaders from both parties to try to figure out the fiscal cliff. is speaker boehner ready to make a deal anytime soon? >>> plus, major news for big business. the justice department hits bp with the biggest criminal penalty ever assessed on a corporation for the 2010 gulf oil spill. >>> and so much for the ideas that twinkies last forever. bankruptcy breaks a big-time baker. >>> good morning from washington. it's friday, november 16, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert in for chuck todd who hasn't worked hard enough at all this entire election campaign, he's now going to asia to cover the president's trip. former cia director david petraeus will testify in the benghazi at
. >>> opening up behind closed doors, a week after resigning as head of the cia over an extramarital affair david petraeus heads to both sides of capitol hill this morning for hearings on what happened in the leadup and aftermath of the september attack that killed four americans in libya. >>> meanwhile, at the other end of pennsylvania avenue, president obama gets ready to sit down with congressional leaders from both parties to try to figure out the fiscal cliff. is speaker...
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this is a complex cia operation that was interrupted by a terrorist attack. the cia is never going to tell you everything that they are doing or did as they should not. but that allows a lot of innuendo room for the right to say, see, we're not getting answers, not getting transparency. you can't because it's an intelligence community. they can't tell you everything. stop making it a scandal when you begin with the idea it's a scandal and then we're going to fill in backwards the details. >> the crime of watergate was much bigger than a mere burglary as you know. it was about richard nixon's attempt to rig an election and subvert the democratic process itself. are these guys such fanatics that they've forgotten the basic facts of their own country's history? >> yes. >> thank you. >> to put it shortly, yes, they have. martin, i assume you do and toure, i live in the reality-based community. >> amen. >> and i really wish that senators graham and mccain and others would immigrate over here to our side because susan rice -- this whole focus is on u.n. ambassador
this is a complex cia operation that was interrupted by a terrorist attack. the cia is never going to tell you everything that they are doing or did as they should not. but that allows a lot of innuendo room for the right to say, see, we're not getting answers, not getting transparency. you can't because it's an intelligence community. they can't tell you everything. stop making it a scandal when you begin with the idea it's a scandal and then we're going to fill in backwards the details....
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former cia director david petraeus is arriving home after a hearing on capitol hill appearing for the first time since his resignation over the affair. the general testified about what led to the deadly attack in benghazi. >> he made it clear that there was significant terrorist involvement, and that is not my recollection of what he told us. >> we'll get a live report from capitol hill. plus, former mississippi governor haley barbour's shall i say unique take on what republicans need to do after losing the election. >> we've got to give our political organizational activity, you know, a very serious proctology exam. >> ouch. how easy will be it for republicans to fix their problem? i'll ask our political panel. you can join our conversation. you can find us at @tamron hall and @newsnation. think my pick for our friday song, i think. [ male announcer ] this is sheldon, whose long dy setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news.
former cia director david petraeus is arriving home after a hearing on capitol hill appearing for the first time since his resignation over the affair. the general testified about what led to the deadly attack in benghazi. >> he made it clear that there was significant terrorist involvement, and that is not my recollection of what he told us. >> we'll get a live report from capitol hill. plus, former mississippi governor haley barbour's shall i say unique take on what republicans...
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the administration was given an assessment by the cia. susan rice went to the public and gave that to the public. when that information changed, the new information was given to the public. so i am not sure what they're looking for because i don't think there is anything beyond that. >> just to be clear, i'm not saying there's necessarily a conspiracy. what i'm saying is there was a lack of clarity. if the president was indeed clear that first day in saying that this was a terrorist act which by the way i don't think he was that clear, he was speaking generally, then why would susan rice a few days later not refer to it as a terrorist act? the fact of the matter is -- >> so the issue is the word terrorism wasn't used to the public satisfaction? >> one day it was vaguely described. the president saying that he referred to terror one day and then several days later the secretary or susan rice doesn't even refer to terrorism. she is talking about -- you can go right back to the video. the facts weren't clearly described from the beginning. >
the administration was given an assessment by the cia. susan rice went to the public and gave that to the public. when that information changed, the new information was given to the public. so i am not sure what they're looking for because i don't think there is anything beyond that. >> just to be clear, i'm not saying there's necessarily a conspiracy. what i'm saying is there was a lack of clarity. if the president was indeed clear that first day in saying that this was a terrorist act...
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possibly a new cia director, possibly they keep the acting one. folks here at the white house, the president has great respect for mike morell, current acting director. may strip him of the acting title. but they now realize he has to get off the dime when it comes to state. get it done sooner. don't let all of this, all of this end up like planes on the runway at laguardia and have them all clogged up. you have to space out the confirmation fights and i think that you're going to see movement on state soon. >> you have to get going. >> i do. they kick us out. >> blending in the role of federal government, saying that it is not always perfect, including the response for so many people still suffering greatly but it does work which we know is a great part of the discussion and even the exit polling that i did. the role of government in blending it in to the answer regarding the storm that hit this area. >> well, that's a case i think the president was able to make in the aftermath of hurricane sandy and the government plays a big roll and can play
possibly a new cia director, possibly they keep the acting one. folks here at the white house, the president has great respect for mike morell, current acting director. may strip him of the acting title. but they now realize he has to get off the dime when it comes to state. get it done sooner. don't let all of this, all of this end up like planes on the runway at laguardia and have them all clogged up. you have to space out the confirmation fights and i think that you're going to see movement...
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for example the intelligence committee is meeting focusing on the cia commponent. questions raised for armed services including during a seven-hour attack why can't our military respond to help them there? homeland security has jurisdiction. it's important that we have a full investigation that we not have a piecemeal approach. we get a full accounting of what occurred, take the best recommendations make sure it doesn't happen again and learn lessons from it. that's why we've called for the establishment of a select committee it would be bipartisan, in fact the democrats are in charge of the senate so it would be a component of the members of the committees and obviously the democrats would be in charge of the committee but we have a process that the american people can have confidence in that we've gotten all of the information. >> you were with senators mccain and graham, i believe, yesterday, when they sort of drew a line in the sand about susan rice and the president reacted very angrily to that. shouldn't the president have his prerogatives about whom he nomin
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came from the intelligence community, from the cia. >> exactly. mark halperin, you've been watching this. susan rice with -- on "meet the press" and several of the other shows with david gregory on "meet the press" and when she was sticking to the narrative, in part, sticking to the narrative it had been a spontaneous protest that had evolved from the video, that had sparked it in benghazi that led to the tragic deaths of the ambassador and the three others, and that, of course, proved not to be accurate, a lot of tension with the cia over that and there is a suggestion that because there's a strong interest in susan rice being prepared, if the president chooses to nominate her to replace hillary clinton when she steps down, be that they need to clean that up in susan rice's benefit and that there could be some finger pointing at the cia, mark? >> for all the focus on the fiscal cliff and understandably so, the biggest issue by far the president and congress face in the next couple months the president will have to remake his foreign policy team.
came from the intelligence community, from the cia. >> exactly. mark halperin, you've been watching this. susan rice with -- on "meet the press" and several of the other shows with david gregory on "meet the press" and when she was sticking to the narrative, in part, sticking to the narrative it had been a spontaneous protest that had evolved from the video, that had sparked it in benghazi that led to the tragic deaths of the ambassador and the three others, and that,...
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he served this country with great distinction in iraq, in afghanistan, and as head of the cia. by his own assessment, he did not meet the standards that he felt were necessary as the director of cia with respect to this personal matter that he is now dealing with with his family and with his wife. it's on that basis that he tendered his resignation and it's on that basis that i accepted it. but i want to emphasize that from my perspective at least, he has provided this country an extraordinary service. we are safer because of the work that dave petraeus has done and my main hope right now is that he and his family are able to move on and that this ends up being a single side note on what has otherwise been an extraordinary career. >> [ inaudible ]. >> you know, again, i think you're going to have to talk to the fbi in terms of what their general protocols are when it comes to what started off as a potential criminal investigation. one of the challenges here is that we're not supposed to medle in criminal investigations and that's been our practice. you know, i think that there
he served this country with great distinction in iraq, in afghanistan, and as head of the cia. by his own assessment, he did not meet the standards that he felt were necessary as the director of cia with respect to this personal matter that he is now dealing with with his family and with his wife. it's on that basis that he tendered his resignation and it's on that basis that i accepted it. but i want to emphasize that from my perspective at least, he has provided this country an extraordinary...
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all along and for several reasons it's understandable why they wanted to hear from him, he was the cia director when the attack happened and went to libya and did sort of a fact-finding trip and came back and had additional information all of which the committee still wants to hear and according to our pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski, petraeus himself wanted to do this and called his old colleagues at the cia and said, listen, i know they want to hear from me, i want to testify so they want to hear from him, he wants to testify so it's going to happen. it should be clarified here though, thomas, it won't be an open session. it'll be a closed session because obviously they'll be discussing classified information. >> pete, the other interesting thing we're just learning this new information about the e-mails between jill kelley and general allen and one source describing to nbc news that they were friendly, not so much of a sexual nature. we're talking about thousands of e-mails here but what more can you tell us? >> i don't think we know exactly how many e-mails there are becaus
all along and for several reasons it's understandable why they wanted to hear from him, he was the cia director when the attack happened and went to libya and did sort of a fact-finding trip and came back and had additional information all of which the committee still wants to hear and according to our pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski, petraeus himself wanted to do this and called his old colleagues at the cia and said, listen, i know they want to hear from me, i want to testify so they...
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he was also very calculating on his take on the scandal surrounding former cia chief david pezus. >> i am withholding judgment on how the process around general pettia came up. and it's also possible you'd be asking why are we interfering in a criminal investigation. i think it's best right now for to us see how this whole process unfolded. >> the president also showed the immigration he has and pressure on republicans to reach a bipartisan agreement. >> before the election hi given a couple interviews where i had predicted that the latino vote to be strong and that and. >> i gets it's full steam ahead for the president's second term. he knows the work is not over on immigration. that is it going to be a big issue in 2013. climate chang came up today, which is very important to the economy and the economy itself. president obama needs to pain t -- maintain the support of the american people. at one point he was asked "you got a mandate"? >> with respect to the issue of mandate, i've got one mandate. i've got a mandate to help middle class families and families that are working hard t
he was also very calculating on his take on the scandal surrounding former cia chief david pezus. >> i am withholding judgment on how the process around general pettia came up. and it's also possible you'd be asking why are we interfering in a criminal investigation. i think it's best right now for to us see how this whole process unfolded. >> the president also showed the immigration he has and pressure on republicans to reach a bipartisan agreement. >> before the election hi...
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the problem here is the cia backs up everything that susan rice said. i think if you check the transcripts of what she said versus what the cia was saying at the time, those things match. and i think going forward, as we learn more information, as the information begins to spool itself out, as the investigation begins to conclude itself, and i think it will be some time when we get some real answers, i think that you're going to find that it absolutely was plausible that you had a terrorist organization who was taking advantage of a -- you know, of a protest in progress. i've always said that was very plausible. that seems to be, you know, the idea of what's happened here. today when i saw the president during this press conference, i thought he was going to start reciting the line from mop's ante up. he stood tough this afternoon and i think the white house press corps was not prepared for the president obama they saw today. >> nia-malika, some conservatives are calling out talk radio and fox news for lying to their audience. it seems like many republi
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. >> once the fbi realized it was investigating the director of the cia or the cia director had come within its focus or its scope, i believe at that time they had an absolute obligation to tell the president. not to protect david petraeus but to protect the president. >> for the latest on the fallout, let's check in with pete williams. he's been following this for us. pete, let's talk about the time line here. this happened right before the benghazi hearings. petraeus is supposed to have testified at those hearings on thursday. critics are questioning, why are we hearing about all of this later rather than sooner? >> what the fbi and the justice department say is that in the middle of this investigation -- and you have to remember, this starts out with an allegation that had nothing to do with david petraeus, it was thought. this was a woman in tampa, a volunteer at the joint command down there, who goes to an fbi agent who's a friend of hers and says, i'm getting these weird e-mails that are threatening and intimidating. it looked to her initially like they were coming from more th
. >> once the fbi realized it was investigating the director of the cia or the cia director had come within its focus or its scope, i believe at that time they had an absolute obligation to tell the president. not to protect david petraeus but to protect the president. >> for the latest on the fallout, let's check in with pete williams. he's been following this for us. pete, let's talk about the time line here. this happened right before the benghazi hearings. petraeus is supposed...
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beginning that that was the word from the cia. but the real, real problem confronting america is the way these guys are willing to slander the president and the administration by any means. we certainly didn't do that, the democrats i'm talking about, during the bush administration. when we had a different secretary of state colin powell, and he operated on what he said was the intelligence that he got. >> yeah. >> which was totally completely false, filled with lies, absolutely absurd when the truth was actually known and we didn't take advantage of it because we are all supposed to act like americans and patriots. these guys are anything but. what these guys have done is they're willing to sack their own quarterback in order to get themselves into the game. those are not team players. these guys are like people on wall street who go in and short a stock which means you go and bet against it. you bet that the stock is going to fall and the company's going to lose money and you cheer for that to happen. because you've made that pl
beginning that that was the word from the cia. but the real, real problem confronting america is the way these guys are willing to slander the president and the administration by any means. we certainly didn't do that, the democrats i'm talking about, during the bush administration. when we had a different secretary of state colin powell, and he operated on what he said was the intelligence that he got. >> yeah. >> which was totally completely false, filled with lies, absolutely...
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his career at the cia is over. that's absolutely the right thing to do i have nope him for 20 years and petraeus is sort of the person the smallest little thing bothers him and to go through this, clearly a man of conscience made a grave mistake and just that, that anxiety is the sort of thing that could set anyone on edge. >> i want to turn to we just heard from accept tour shum and coburn about the fiscal cliff and talk to start about the mandate for the president in his second term, how do we define it? our colleague, ron torn yeah, wrote the following in the national journal on wednesday, digesting the election results. and this question of mandates, what he writes -- congressman, a democrat in san antonio, in a house still run by the republicans, we have a status quo election from that point of view, how do you define the mandates specifically around the fiscal cliff? >> the mandate for the american people for the congress to take action. david, we have sat here for four years in a gridlock situation and peopl
his career at the cia is over. that's absolutely the right thing to do i have nope him for 20 years and petraeus is sort of the person the smallest little thing bothers him and to go through this, clearly a man of conscience made a grave mistake and just that, that anxiety is the sort of thing that could set anyone on edge. >> i want to turn to we just heard from accept tour shum and coburn about the fiscal cliff and talk to start about the mandate for the president in his second term,...
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as we know from history, cia directors can cause presidents great grief. the bay of pigs, wmd not in iraq and so forth. also, they can do very important things for presidents, like the bin laden raid, which was a covert cia -- >> i know from spending time with him in his current role, how much he loved this job, engaged by this job and had tremendous bandwidth in terms of his counterterror operation. a lot of questions who replaces him. >> very quickly, he was transforming the agency. add rocky start but he was seeing a global vision, the economic future, looking at asia, looking at china. he was going well beyond the counterterror operations. really transform that. >> he did the honorable thing. he had to resign, given this. i don't think there was any question. >> more on this when we discuss it with our roundtable, andrea mitchell, bob woodward, thank you very much. >>> i want to turn now to two key voices in the senate, democratic senator from new york, chuck schumer and oklahoma republican senator, tom coburn. senators, welcome, both of you back to "m
as we know from history, cia directors can cause presidents great grief. the bay of pigs, wmd not in iraq and so forth. also, they can do very important things for presidents, like the bin laden raid, which was a covert cia -- >> i know from spending time with him in his current role, how much he loved this job, engaged by this job and had tremendous bandwidth in terms of his counterterror operation. a lot of questions who replaces him. >> very quickly, he was transforming the...
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under the new system the director of the cia reports to clapper. clapper is his boss, and they thought that clapper should know. he controls the security clearances. let him make the decision about whether it was proper to keep david petraeus on the job. obviously clapper felt it wasn't and told petraeus he ought to resign. >> i guess it's one of those cases once people know about it, the catch-22 is you have to do something about it or else you're part of the cover-up. maybe that's the way they look at it. pete williams, as always, thank you, sir. >> that's right. >> do you have a thought? >> i was going to say one other thing, by certainly mid to late october petraeus knows he's under investigation. he knows that the fbi knows about this. but he doesn't decide to go and tell the white house and offer to resign until clapper tells him to do so. >> more information. thank you so much, pete, for that reporting. more on the politics of the petraeus scandal, if you will. eugene robinson is an associate editor and columnist for "the washington post." a
under the new system the director of the cia reports to clapper. clapper is his boss, and they thought that clapper should know. he controls the security clearances. let him make the decision about whether it was proper to keep david petraeus on the job. obviously clapper felt it wasn't and told petraeus he ought to resign. >> i guess it's one of those cases once people know about it, the catch-22 is you have to do something about it or else you're part of the cover-up. maybe that's the...
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. >>> plus spy fall, what we're learning about the affair that brought down the cia chief and perhaps derailed the promoths of the top general. besides complaining about how president obama won re-election by giving away gifts to minorities and young voters, wonder what mitt romney has been doing since the election? david letterman has an idea. >> today mitt romney drew a picture of the house of representatives chamber and gave a state of the union address in front of it. >> and the fourth new entitlement, obama care, we'd repeal that one. >> we have a few more of those sugar plums in the "sideshow." >>> plet me finish with a book about when we had a hero for a president. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> time to bust another 2012 lest myth. the idea took hold that african-americans would not be as fired up to vote as they were four years ago. but here is what the nbc news political desk found in looking at the exit polls. in the states with significant black populations the black vote increased in five states, michigan, mississippi, missouri, ohio, and new jersey. it he
. >>> plus spy fall, what we're learning about the affair that brought down the cia chief and perhaps derailed the promoths of the top general. besides complaining about how president obama won re-election by giving away gifts to minorities and young voters, wonder what mitt romney has been doing since the election? david letterman has an idea. >> today mitt romney drew a picture of the house of representatives chamber and gave a state of the union address in front of it....
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he cleared it up to the extent of saying the cia did know it was a terrorist attack. knew that early on and the question is why that didn't make it to the final talking points. somebody took it out. the white house is saying it wasn't them. so who did weigh in on the question. i would agree with steve's point. i think from a republican's point of view this was not litigated effectively during the campaign. that mitt romney tried to bring it up in a second debate and he lost his point on a technicality and never went back to it. we thought he would bring it up in a third debate, the foreign policy debate there would be more discussion and he would have refined his attack on the president. instead he dropped it entirely. from the point of view from his colleagues, he really didn't press the president he way he should have on this point during the campaign. >> i want to get to mention of the fiscal cliff issue. we have new comments from nancy pelosi on the fiscal cliff today. let's listen to that. >> would you accept a deal that does not include tax rate increases for th
he cleared it up to the extent of saying the cia did know it was a terrorist attack. knew that early on and the question is why that didn't make it to the final talking points. somebody took it out. the white house is saying it wasn't them. so who did weigh in on the question. i would agree with steve's point. i think from a republican's point of view this was not litigated effectively during the campaign. that mitt romney tried to bring it up in a second debate and he lost his point on a...
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. >>> plus spy fall, what we're learning about the affair that brought down the cia chief and perhaps derailed the promotion of the top general. and has been tabloid fodder now for almost a week. >>> and besides complaining about how president obama won re-election by giving away gifts to minorities and young voters, ever wonder what mitt romney has done -- actually been doing since the election? well, david letterman has an idea. >> today mitt romney drew a picture of the house of representatives chamber and gave a state of the union address in front of it. >> and the fourth new entitlement, obama care, we repeal that one. >> message from pretend president romney. >> got a few more of those sugar plums in the side shows. let me finish way book about when we hay hero for a president. this is "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans? [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't. multigrain cheerios >>> time to bust another 2012 election myth. the i
. >>> plus spy fall, what we're learning about the affair that brought down the cia chief and perhaps derailed the promotion of the top general. and has been tabloid fodder now for almost a week. >>> and besides complaining about how president obama won re-election by giving away gifts to minorities and young voters, ever wonder what mitt romney has done -- actually been doing since the election? well, david letterman has an idea. >> today mitt romney drew a picture of...